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There was no evidence that any of this happened notwithstanding the “gallows humour of some of the phone calls that you heard.”

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It was a “question of scale” rather than black and white rules. Balance sheet management existed and people had different views as to how to go about it and how much of it you could do, he said.

What was “glossed over” by the prosecution was all the “eyes that were looking” at what was happening without “anybody raising any kind of red flag.”

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